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Re: New BLK 360

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badam wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:55 pm
jsteinert wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:01 pm I think comparing this to a handheld is very applicable, considering the speed in field. We have battled indoor positioning without control in our handhelds, and I feel this new instrument can work great with only C2C alignment AND compete with handheld scanning time. Also, processing time would be quicker than handhelds.
let see what they can offer, in terms of performance increasing in reg360 especially hdr imaging. Because that is pretty slow currently. i don't know if it can be faster then any handhelds. vis links are just prealignment. You will still need to work/clean everything as much as you can.

And don't forget with a tls device you can get pretty big file sizes which can give you headaches, if you don't prepare for it...

it won't be like a handheld. one setup with dense+ and hdr will be 600-800 mb. if you create 100 scan/day (this should be easy with this speed)... in 20 workday it is 1.5TB of data => 15TB a year. And this is only just raw data, there will be a same amount of register360 files, and exported e57.

But i'd rather buy this then a 2go without any second thoughts. Especially when the 2go cost 2-2.5 times more. But if you plan to pay more in the range of 60-70 grand then buy an rtc instead. way better quality and you can still scan in low res and that will be higher resolution then the dense scan with this. 12mm@10m hdr imagery is 1:31, without image it is 31 sec.
I work with BLK360/2Go/RTC data on a daily basis. Same with NavVis M6/VLX.
We process and house 99% of data internally, so I have a pretty good frame of reference on data size and processing time.
We have been improving MLS scan data with measured control indoors by referencing column grids as our control. That has introduced imbalances of field scan tech's ability. I would be glad to not need to rely on measured control to remove drift/warp common in MLS.

So, MLS from NavVis has been a great use case with a few of our large clients(with some ongoing big hurdles and challenges) but at the speeds of BLK360 G2 coupled with the client expectations of pano locations I am pretty sure the scan time differences will be minimal.

2Go is a different use case and our utilization with it is thru the roof this year.
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Lowa wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:46 pm Hello, for those who have been able to put their hand to the new BLK360 in Las Vegas.
the vis function, and therefore the pre-alignment of the scans, is also possible on the single e57 scans that it seems can export directly (looking at the technical data sheet) or are they all positioned on 0,0,0 and therefore the BLKLive prealign app but only passing through cyclone?
Thanks for the reply.
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No registration info within the E57 when using export from BLK live App.
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robin ault wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:57 pm Does anyone know if you have to go through Field to register or can you go straight into Register Core ?
thinking we could use it to supplement RTC 360 data.
BLK Data Manager -> BLK files, import to CORE/REG360 OR
Connect to F360 - import project OR
Connect to scanner import data OR
E57 download from BLK LIVE OR
HxDR upload from either BLK LIVE and F360 (forthcoming)


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Re: New BLK 360

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pburrows145 wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:57 am
robin ault wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:57 pm Does anyone know if you have to go through Field to register or can you go straight into Register Core ?
thinking we could use it to supplement RTC 360 data.
BLK Data Manager -> BLK files, import to CORE/REG360 OR
Connect to F360 - import project OR
Connect to scanner import data OR
E57 download from BLK LIVE OR
HxDR upload from either BLK LIVE and F360 (forthcoming)


Did I miss anything?
Blk data manager -> blk files -> reg360 does support, geotags, field links, vis links?

Low power state (batteryless) usb-c copy is slower then, high power?
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Anyone to confirm the price of it?
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The pricing is available on the website...

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and what about 3D resolution? "apart of the official dataset"

4mm @ 10m on the new BLK360
3mm @ 20m on the RTC "at the end most of ppl scan like that right?"

This new BLK360 will get the Double scan for moving objects removal??
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and what about 3D resolution?
RTC360 = 3, 6, 12mm @10m
BLK360 = 6, 12, 25, 50mm @10m
This new BLK360 will get the Double scan for moving objects removal??
No, that feature is only on the RTC360
apart of the official dataset"
Happy to send more datasets when we get our demo unit
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hello, has anyone received the new model of BLK360 ??
from the site it seems that the deliveries have started two days ago! Did anyone get their hands on us?
can you confirm the operational timing between one scan and the next?
it sounds like science fiction for such a small instrument! can you see any amateur videos of the BLK360 G2 in action?

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Lowa wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:35 am hello, has anyone received the new model of BLK360 ??
from the site it seems that the deliveries have started two days ago! Did anyone get their hands on us?
can you confirm the operational timing between one scan and the next?
it sounds like science fiction for such a small instrument! can you see any amateur videos of the BLK360 G2 in action?

Bye
Operation times between scans will be as fast as you can place the scanner to the new position...
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