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Calculating Scan Storage requirements for a project

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Hey,

Has anyone every come up with a reasonably accurate way for estimating scan storage requirements for a project based on area or volume?

I need to estimate the HDD storage requirements for a very large project. Would like to be able to estimate on-site storage based on the volume of the build and no of repeat scans etc....

I guessing it may be a CAD excercise based on a average scan set up spacing and scan resolution. We're using P40's.

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i did a 40mdeg scan project yesterday with around 250mb per scan. These are large scans so it would be less normally.
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landmeterbeuckx wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:11 pm i did a 40mdeg scan project yesterday with around 250mb per scan. These are large scans so it would be less normally.
250MB is large? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Scott.Warren wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:26 pm
landmeterbeuckx wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:11 pm i did a 40mdeg scan project yesterday with around 250mb per scan. These are large scans so it would be less normally.
250MB is large? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Normal scan for a normal project of course. If detailed a lot more. Riegl scans btw.
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I would do a typical, practice scan similar to what you can expect to be doing on the site then use that as a base for each. It is far better to over-estimate and end up with excess storage.
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How big of a project are we talking about? Big for some are small for others. Last year I quoted a project that would take 2 petabytes...

Most large jobs are unique enough to break the mold.

But honestly the cost of storage is a none issue when you look at the cost to job size billable’s. Unless your expected to keep all the data and your client wants a copy.

50gb job should be $5k+
1Tb job should be $100k+
1Pb a $1mil

Get my point.
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Likely 000's of scans from multiple contractors including ourselves over 2 years on a very large project (€8 billion)

Think I'll just guestimate based on CAD drawings on 5m spacing, medium setting scan and no of visits or something to this effect...

Should get me in the ball park
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Hi Christopher

Take a look at Cintoo Cloud (https://cintoo.com) which lets you host structured scan projects of an unlimited size.
You pay just for the number of stations you keep in the cloud, regardless of the size per station, or the total project size.

Not only is scan size unlimited, you also have an unlimited number of users, and an unlimited number of projects.
Pricing is straightforward, and is based off the total scan volume you keep in the cloud.
Take a look: https://cintoo.com/pricing

You can access Cintoo Cloud on-site using any laptop or tablet with a Firefox, Chrome or Microsoft Edge browser.
If you have further questions, please get in touch;
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shawsimon wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:43 pm Hi Christopher

Take a look at Cintoo Cloud (https://cintoo.com) which lets you host structured scan projects of an unlimited size.
You pay just for the number of stations you keep in the cloud, regardless of the size per station, or the total project size.

Not only is scan size unlimited, you also have an unlimited number of users, and an unlimited number of projects.
Pricing is straightforward, and is based off the total scan volume you keep in the cloud.
Take a look: https://cintoo.com/pricing

You can access Cintoo Cloud on-site using any laptop or tablet with a Firefox, Chrome or Microsoft Edge browser.
If you have further questions, please get in touch;
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Simon,

I've already tested your product and like it a lot but let me say it's too expensive. I just cannot justify these costs to clients. To keep it affordable i'll have to constant delete scans, add others,...
If you were to have some kind of project price this could be invoiced directly to the client and no hidden extras.
To me it is a service aimed at big coorperations, not for the small firm.
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Re: Calculating Scan Storage requirements for a project

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Hi Lieven,

Cintoo is used by both smaller scanning companies as well as large corporations, as you point out.
There are a few different approaches to use:

1. A European laser scanning customer of mine opens a new Cintoo subscription for each of their clients, based on the scan volume required. So the client is in charge of their own account. They can choose to pay monthly or yearly. They client receives the Cintoo invoice directly and pays it themself. You invoice them seperately for all the work you do on their Cintoo project(s) - uploading scans/models, project work etc. Your client can then manage their own Cintoo subscription going forward, which is useful for them in lots of different ways.

2. When you take your own Cintoo subscription, and then give your client one project on your subscription, then the approach is a bit different. In the Cintoo project, you aren't just hosting the client's scans, you are making their data management easier, providing an annotation/issue tool, scan-BIM comparison and making the scan project available to all their team. Not only that, you are also bringing all your own laser scanning/reality data expertise, so the price you decide to charge for a project is based on the value-add you provide to them...the Cintoo price (listed on our web site) is just a part of the overall service you provide. The very smallest Cintoo volume is USD$100/month.

There was an interesting post on Linkedin last week about different platforms, and pricing. Have a look at what one of our customers in the laser scanning game said about Cintoo's pricing:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AhzQhVclqyljlCrE5ULy07pqKEpX

Here's the link to the full post:https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/ur ... 720847874/

If you were interested in having another try of the Cintoo platform, then I'd be happy to sort you out with a second trial. Please get in touch if this would be of interest.

Simon
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