Scanning Vintage Cars
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Re: Scanning Vintage Cars
Hi all,
I've been lurking on the forum for a while now and just decided to post.
My company specialises in this sort of thing; as a matter of fact we even make a scanner line Anyways, if you're interested in this type of scan work I invite you to have a look at my company's corporate blog at http://blog.creaform3d.com where we've described a few of the many projects we've done. Among other things we've described a car scanning project as well as a boat scan we've recently done.
Cheers!
I've been lurking on the forum for a while now and just decided to post.
My company specialises in this sort of thing; as a matter of fact we even make a scanner line Anyways, if you're interested in this type of scan work I invite you to have a look at my company's corporate blog at http://blog.creaform3d.com where we've described a few of the many projects we've done. Among other things we've described a car scanning project as well as a boat scan we've recently done.
Cheers!
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Re: Scanning Vintage Cars
Joe,
That looks much better than I had hoped for.
Is there any way to take this and sharpen the edges? or would it help if there were precisely surveyed points to define edges and corners?
We do have to go back and get some more dimensions on the frame. I think my client will be impressed with the images.
Thanks
Matt
That looks much better than I had hoped for.
Is there any way to take this and sharpen the edges? or would it help if there were precisely surveyed points to define edges and corners?
We do have to go back and get some more dimensions on the frame. I think my client will be impressed with the images.
Thanks
Matt
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Re: Scanning Vintage Cars
Thanks Pat,Pat_Canada wrote:Hi all,
I've been lurking on the forum for a while now and just decided to post.
My company specialises in this sort of thing; as a matter of fact we even make a scanner line Anyways, if you're interested in this type of scan work I invite you to have a look at my company's corporate blog at http://blog.creaform3d.com where we've described a few of the many projects we've done. Among other things we've described a car scanning project as well as a boat scan we've recently done.
Cheers!
I will certainly bear you in mind. If we can not use the data we have the produce the model then a higher res scanner like the handy scan may do the job.
Cheers
Matt
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Re: Scanning Vintage Cars
Hi Steve / Matt, I ran the C10 data through polyworks to create a mesh. The model was just about good enough to trace curves from the surface of the mesh and project them onto planes to recreate sharp edges.
I've done a bit of work using long range scanners to create meshes and even printed a few on our Zcorp printer. The main problem I've encountered is where you have small gaps and joints on the object as the error in the scanner means these are lost when put through the meshing process as they all 'blend' together because of the noise.
I was quite impressed with the data though, there is still more detail to extract from the scan than in the Nurbs surface, it's just finding the time!
Cheers Joe
I've done a bit of work using long range scanners to create meshes and even printed a few on our Zcorp printer. The main problem I've encountered is where you have small gaps and joints on the object as the error in the scanner means these are lost when put through the meshing process as they all 'blend' together because of the noise.
I was quite impressed with the data though, there is still more detail to extract from the scan than in the Nurbs surface, it's just finding the time!
Cheers Joe
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Re: Scanning Vintage Cars
Joe,
Thanks for all your help on this. Its quite an exiting and unique project, something we have been trying on and off for 6-7 years. I think that the technology is finally there now.
Thanks again
Matt
Thanks for all your help on this. Its quite an exiting and unique project, something we have been trying on and off for 6-7 years. I think that the technology is finally there now.
Thanks again
Matt
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Re: Scanning Vintage Cars
Hello All
Hello al this is my first post in the forum and I am afraid I am an enthusiastic new comer.
Matt
I came across your post regarding the Bentley project you had worked to produce a scanned version of the wooden frame for a Bentley and would love to have access to the data you hold for the project. The fact that you also used to work on the cars themselves restoring them to their former if not improved glory makes me even more excited about finding you here.
I am currently trying to create a non-blown Bentley of the 1920s /1930s era using as many period parts that I can find – the basis of the build is a 1933 20/25 chassis which is very very close to the original W.O chassis.
Hello al this is my first post in the forum and I am afraid I am an enthusiastic new comer.
Matt
I came across your post regarding the Bentley project you had worked to produce a scanned version of the wooden frame for a Bentley and would love to have access to the data you hold for the project. The fact that you also used to work on the cars themselves restoring them to their former if not improved glory makes me even more excited about finding you here.
I am currently trying to create a non-blown Bentley of the 1920s /1930s era using as many period parts that I can find – the basis of the build is a 1933 20/25 chassis which is very very close to the original W.O chassis.
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I'm afraid that this project stopped a long time ago... The client asking for the frame model would of put a very old friend out of business. This particular friend was far more important to me than the client.
Also, terrestrial laser scanners are not in my opinion the right tools for the job. The right tools for this type of chassis involve a life size sketch board on the wall and highly skilled carpenters to do the work. Using modern tools to create old cars is wrong and I take no part in it.
Also, terrestrial laser scanners are not in my opinion the right tools for the job. The right tools for this type of chassis involve a life size sketch board on the wall and highly skilled carpenters to do the work. Using modern tools to create old cars is wrong and I take no part in it.
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Re: Scanning Vintage Cars
I completely disagree with you. In fact, using modern tools like scanners (although NOT terrestrial) are the best option when re-creating vintage vehicles like the one you were lucky enough to scan.Matt Young wrote:I'm afraid that this project stopped a long time ago... The client asking for the frame model would of put a very old friend out of business. This particular friend was far more important to me than the client.
Also, terrestrial laser scanners are not in my opinion the right tools for the job. The right tools for this type of chassis involve a life size sketch board on the wall and highly skilled carpenters to do the work. Using modern tools to create old cars is wrong and I take no part in it.
I will say it is admirable of you to not do this work because your it might hurt your friend, however, there is without a doubt a long line of people that would gladly take on that project.
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Re: Scanning Vintage Cars
Completely understand your viewpoint and may be wrong to generalize by saying it's wrong.
I did work for the best part of ten years making vintage cars with old tools, wheeling machines, gas torches, back breaking hard work and my hands. Maybe I am just a romantic... but I like the old ways more, and I miss them. We are gaining a lot with modern tech but must remember not to lose too much.
I did work for the best part of ten years making vintage cars with old tools, wheeling machines, gas torches, back breaking hard work and my hands. Maybe I am just a romantic... but I like the old ways more, and I miss them. We are gaining a lot with modern tech but must remember not to lose too much.
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