Spot,the robot dog, with FARO S class laser scanner on top

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Re: Spot,the robot dog, with FARO S class laser scanner on top

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Kolt45 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:49 am As of now Spot looks great but it is one of the early products of its kind. From what I heard it needs a "dog-walker". Someone essentially needs to program it how to move around, set it off, make sure it does not get stuck anywhere, etc. Not sure this is true but battery life on it is 60-90 minutes too. It means you get a dog for 75k then need to hire a person to take care of it and buy a scanner to mount on top. Why not just have a scanning guy with a scanner to do the same job faster?

It is more of a marketing stunt that a feasible model as of now. I hope in 5-10 years we will get to the point where it will make sense.

On the other hand - have you seen Brain Corp self driving cleaning robots at Walmarts? I feel like those could be a great fit in retail / office environments to mount scanners in them. They are taller too.
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It's actually quite far along. I'm not at liberty to say more except it's not a marketing stunt I can assure you.
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Re: Spot,the robot dog, with FARO S class laser scanner on top

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ddustin wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:11 pm
Kolt45 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:49 am As of now Spot looks great but it is one of the early products of its kind. From what I heard it needs a "dog-walker". Someone essentially needs to program it how to move around, set it off, make sure it does not get stuck anywhere, etc. Not sure this is true but battery life on it is 60-90 minutes too. It means you get a dog for 75k then need to hire a person to take care of it and buy a scanner to mount on top. Why not just have a scanning guy with a scanner to do the same job faster?

It is more of a marketing stunt that a feasible model as of now. I hope in 5-10 years we will get to the point where it will make sense.

On the other hand - have you seen Brain Corp self driving cleaning robots at Walmarts? I feel like those could be a great fit in retail / office environments to mount scanners in them. They are taller too.
Marek,
It's actually quite far along. I'm not at liberty to say more except it's not a marketing stunt I can assure you.
Well if you want another test site, Dave, you can come to DC area. I got a bunch of very old (80-100 yr old) large Concrete box drains (7-20 feet wide0 in Montgomery County that need scan located and inspected -and running in confined-space apparatus and trained personnel with mobile scanners is not really realistic......
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'Fluffy' aka 'Spot the robot dog', changes spots on top

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https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/fo ... it-factory
Ford Uses Robot Dogs To Map Plant, Human Surveyors No Longer Needed
"Ford Motor Company is set to abandoned traditional human surveyors for robot dogs with sensors to laser map a production plant ahead of retooling.

Ford partnered with Boston Dynamics to digitally map its Van Dyke Transmission Plant in Michigan. The data will enable engineers to retool the plant for future products. The ability to use robot dogs, outfitted with sensors, is a much timelier and cost-effective approach than using human surveyors".
Cont... see video, link above.

P.S. The timing really sucks, IMHO, after a week of horrific GDP reports in the USA and Germany. Sorry, Fluff-Spot, no bone for you!
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I find it funny how ford is selling this as if they are saving money by having this done with a drone dog
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Spot should stick to surveying:
https://www.blacklistednews.com/article ... draft.html
Robots authorized to kill in San Francisco police draft policy
Excerpt:
Peskin, chair of the committee, initially attempted to limit the SFPD’s authority over the department’s robots by inserting the sentence, “Robots shall not be used as a Use of Force against any person.”

The following week, the police struck out his suggestion with a thick red line.

This could mark a legal Rubicon for the city: robot use-of-force has never before been either approved or prohibited in San Francisco. A version of this draft policy was unanimously accepted by the rules committee last week and will come before the full board on Nov. 29.

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Re: Spot,the robot dog, with FARO S class laser scanner on top

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I have watched the spot development with great detail and all i can say is, who is this for??

Is it for surveyors?
Is the quality of the scan not an issue when its being supported by something that is balancing itself frequently? is it not faster to walk it around? is the view angle not an issue? is having spot in the lower 10 degrees of all scans not an issue for cloud to cloud registration?

Is it for production?
Commonly what gets posted is this idea that the workplace will be able to have a frequently updated model of the yard/building site by having a path that spot takes weekly to routinely map it out. Who would rather look at that than just walk out to site once a while? or make a phone call to confirm? is it to make sure the pipes went in the wall before it is giprocked? Would production even have the capability to process the insurmountable data?

Is it for unsafe zone mapping?
Why not use a drone? when spot slips and falls in the middle of a unsafe tunnel, I'm out a 120k dog and a 40k scanner.

If you're talking targetless mobile scanning, surely slam mobile scanners are a better option? I've seen an entire cargoship get mapped out in 2 hours, i dont think spot would make it over the bulkheads.

I get it, the dog is cool as anything, an i want to see it implemented more. But im constantly seeing videos claiming massive time savings over conventional methods, and then immediately cutting to spot with a surveyor off to the side to escort/drive it at all times in case the battery dies or if falls over, or the scanning parameters need to be changed.

What is the market? what is the intention? in what scenario would i need dimensionally dubious, angularly restrictive, noisy data machine that needs to be charged every 60 minutes? my offsider needs 1 can of red bull and he's good to go for the next 8 hours.
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