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why do you prefer core i series cpu instead of xeon ?
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Me too. Just upgrade the RAM to 128 GB and quit happy with it. Had a P50 before that.
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I have a HP ZBook. I9 vPro 9th Gen with 64 gb Ram and a Quadro T200. The video card was not what I wanted, but what I got.

The laptop really rips on with Scene and does a very good job with ReCap. The video card slows down Polyworks, but the rest of it is great.

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Very dependent on the processing software you are utilizing. Each Software requires different specifications.

There was an amazing presentation at Autodesk University a couple years ago on how each software and computer needs be built. For instance, Cyclone will utilize dual Xeon CPU's with loads of RAM and PCIe drives for import and export functions. But the Video Cards are almost meaningless to Cyclone. Other Programs like Agisoft require much better video but not so much CPU. Other software will work on the Threadripper chips, while some software's and functions are hindered by the Threadripper CPU's. Building a computer is basically software specific. We run completely different computers for Registration in Leica Cyclone, then there is a completely different build spec for the Autodesk ReCAP computer, and another separate build spec for the Agisoft processing.
Every software take advantage of different features. Some want few cores and high clock speeds, others simply need all the RAM can throw at it on a single thread, other software want strictly read and write speeds with all the temp space possible. While other programs just need the best dual video card combination, but only a simple i5 CPU. Computer builds to optimize performance are so specific in industry. Absolutely no Unicorn Solutions in industry, be it hardware, software, people or anything else. Unicorns are just fantasy. Talk to @Chris Touchberry of Top Flight Computers, he builds BIM and Scanning computers specific to industry. He does ship globally. Chris only builds computers and deals with users globally, so has all the research and background from multiple users to build an optimized system for your specific software.
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That being said. For Cyclone a Minimum of i9 or Xeon. Xeon you can dump more ram on also ECC. Make absolutely sure your Raw Data and Project for Cyclone exist on M.2 PCIe drives, as you'll have a 40% increase on import speeds as compared to simple SATA SSD drive. Don't mess around with Gaming Machines, buy Business Class machines, and make sure it is a certified for instance make sure you have RTX graphics such as the RTX5000 as apposed a GTX card. If it is a consumer grade gaming card that will be one of the first comments you get back from any tech support.

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Core i Series CPUs are typically designed for desktops and laptops and offer high single-core performance, making them suitable for tasks such as gaming, video editing, and other general-purpose computing. On the other hand, Xeon CPUs are designed for servers and workstations, and often offer more cores and support for multi-socket configurations, making them ideal for heavy-duty computing tasks such as data center applications, scientific simulations, and virtualization.

Ultimately, the choice between Core i Series CPUs and Xeon CPUs depends on the specific needs and use case of the user.
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When it comes to powerful mobile workstations, there are several manufacturers and models that are worth considering in addition to MSI. Some of the top options in the market include: Dell Precision, HP ZBook, Lenovo ThinkPad P Series, ASUS ProArt StudioBook
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We spent a fair bit on an MSI GT75, which still works great today. Subsequent to that, a much much cheaper Aorus 15P with 64GB RAM - which is definitely not as solid, but gets the job done.
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As a company, we pretty much only buy Dell laptops for all the staff, but those in the BIM/VDC/Reality Capture side will get Dell's more powerful lineup. Right now, we're getting the Dell Precision 7780 laptops with the 13950HX CPU, 128GB DDR5 memory, (2) 2TB NVMe's, and the GPU will be either the A4000 or A5000 depending on what software they will all be working with. The CPU and RAM are the biggest factor for processing scans on a laptop, and the 13950HX offers the fastest single and multi threadded performance for pretty much any laptop on the market at the moment, so it should be you best bet for processing scans as fast as possible, no matter your scanning platform. If we have people dedicated to processing laser scans and don't require the mobility of a laptop, we'll get custom built desktops (for pretty much the same costs as the laptop) which will be built specific to the scanning software they'll be running. A $5k desktop would crush a laptop that costs $5k and would probably be 3 or 4 times faster at a minimum when processing scans.

Even though we get pretty good pricing and discounts through Dell for how much we purchase through them, I'm sure there are much cheaper options that offer almost the same performance, but for our company, the Precision line for those high end laptops have been pretty dang solid. It's very typical for us to get 3 years out of a laptop before we upgrade to the latest hardware again.
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Kruse wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:38 pm As a company, we pretty much only buy Dell laptops for all the staff, but those in the BIM/VDC/Reality Capture side will get Dell's more powerful lineup. Right now, we're getting the Dell Precision 7780 laptops with the 13950HX CPU, 128GB DDR5 memory, (2) 2TB NVMe's, and the GPU will be either the A4000 or A5000 depending on what software they will all be working with. The CPU and RAM are the biggest factor for processing scans on a laptop, and the 13950HX offers the fastest single and multi threadded performance for pretty much any laptop on the market at the moment, so it should be you best bet for processing scans as fast as possible, no matter your scanning platform. If we have people dedicated to processing laser scans and don't require the mobility of a laptop, we'll get custom built desktops (for pretty much the same costs as the laptop) which will be built specific to the scanning software they'll be running. A $5k desktop would crush a laptop that costs $5k and would probably be 3 or 4 times faster at a minimum when processing scans.

Even though we get pretty good pricing and discounts through Dell for how much we purchase through them, I'm sure there are much cheaper options that offer almost the same performance, but for our company, the Precision line for those high end laptops have been pretty dang solid. It's very typical for us to get 3 years out of a laptop before we upgrade to the latest hardware again.
Any news if Dell has fixed the thermal and power issues they had on the Precision 7770?
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msivil wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:55 pm Any news if Dell has fixed the thermal and power issues they had on the Precision 7770?
I'm currently running a Precision 7770 laptop that's maxed out on all hardware (I installed 12 additional TB of NVMe drives myself) and I haven't noticed any issue with thermal or power issues. There's only so much cooling they can do inside these computers with that CPU, but to help ensure the best performance, I had to override the performance settings to high performance vs leaving it in default settings.

Not sure if it's due to our It's golden Windows Image, but by default I can only select balanced power mode with no option to set to high performance mode. After getting some help from Dell support, they gave me a command prompt that allows me to force it into High Performance mode.

If you copy paste and enter this in your command prompt, it'll force it into a high performance mode.

powercfg /s SCHEME_MIN

I'll get slightly better results when processing laser scans when in High Performance mode as well and there doesn't seem to be any power limits. I don't really get thermally limited when processing scans, only when running bench marks such as Cinebench R23 on multi core mode.
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